Religion Keeps Trying to Worm it’s Way into The United States Government

From an article entitled “The Bible bill?”, by Victoria McGrane – Fri May 22, 5:40 am ET

When the clock strikes midnight on Dec. 31, 2009, Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) hopes you’ll be ringing in “the Year of the Bible.”

It’s probably just wishful thinking.

Broun’s simple congressional resolution aimed at honoring the Good Book has produced a push-back of biblical proportion in the blogosphere, with critics dismissing it as either unconstitutional or a waste of time. Jews in Congress and atheist activists are dismissing the resolution, while none of the many Democrats in Congress who are Christian have bothered to sign on as co-sponsors.

According to GovTrak.us, the resolution is among the most-blogged-about pieces of legislation, with most posts less than complimentary in nature.

“Does that mean 2009 is not the year of the Bible?” mocked Rep. Barney Frank ­(D-Mass.), who is Jewish. “What is 2012 the year of? The Quran?”

“That’s an endorsement of religion by the federal government, and we shouldn’t be doing that,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), even though he has introduced his own legislation dealing with religion.

“Republican lawmakers with apparently too much time on their hands and no solutions to offer the country are pushing a resolution that will not address the nation’s problems or advance prosperity or even untangle their previous governing mistakes,” blogged the Progressive Puppy.

Broun rejects the critiques leveled at this effort.

“This doesn’t have anything to do with Christianity,” he said in an interview with POLITICO. Rather, he says, it seeks to recognize that the Bible played an integral role in the building of the United States, including providing the basis for our freedom of religion that allows Muslims, Hindus and even atheists to vocalize their own beliefs.

You can read the entire article at this link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090522/pl_politico/22832

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The incredible amount and varieties of horse shit, that keeps oozing from the multiple orifices of the United States Government, never ceases to amaze, disgust and amuse me.

The Year of The Bible, as decreed by the United States Congress. Hey, I only see a few problems with this issue. Separation of Church and State, for one and a whole host of other issues, violating other federal, state and local laws, not to mention common sense and courtesy.  

Broun, you dope. What a fucking bone head. There is so may things wrong with this, it is no wonder as the article says: “Broun’s simple congressional resolution aimed at honoring the Good Book has produced a push-back of biblical proportion in the blogosphere, with critics dismissing it as either unconstitutional or a waste of time.” It has little support among congress and the general public.

As a side bar look what Barney Fag…err..Frank has to say:

“Does that mean 2009 is not the year of the Bible?” mocked Rep. Barney Frank ­(D-Mass.), who is Jewish. “What is 2012 the year of? The Quran?”

Well to the fudge packing, cock sucking congressman from Mass-he-chews-tits, I would ask is 2004 the year of the “Faggot Congressmen Who Fucked the US Economy Up the Ass”? Barney gay boy and his band of brain dead democrat congressional fuck heads played a huge roll in the present fucked up economy by failing to oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack?  Check it out, on video, in their own words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg

Sorry, but every time is see that asshole Frank, I have to throw up this video. However, in this case, Frank is correct. Thats one in a row, Barney. Hey that rymes with “Blow me!”

However, the equally brain dead asshole Broun asserts the following: ““This doesn’t have anything to do with Christianity,”. What????

The dope Broun continues, saying  that the Bible played an integral role in the building of the United States, including providing the basis for our freedom of religion that allows Muslims, Hindus and even atheists to vocalize their own beliefs, to which I say bullshit.

The Bible is totally intolerant of any other religion and does not leave any room for “religious freedom”.

Dueteronomy  Chapter 7, verse 3 + 4:

3:Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4: For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

The God of the Bible did not take kindly to people serving other Gods. In fact, He will “destroy thee suddenly”, for doing such a thing. There is a huge lesson in religious tolerance and freedom there. Like the God of the Bible doesn’t allow it and will seriously kill your sorry ass.

Anyone familiar with the Bible should know this without looking.

Here’s another gem, illustrating the God of the Bibles good nature toward other religions:

Exodus 34: 14 + 15:

“14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: 15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice”

“Jealous”. That’s a word that exudes religious tolerance.

“Hey, it’s OK if you tolerate other religions in your new country. I’m cool with that. I know, I know, The Bible calls me a jealous God, but it’s the 1700’s! Let’s get past all this religious intolerance. This new country will be really cool! Tell everyone the God has a new attitude!””

There are many other examples where the God of the Bible slaughters men, women and children simply because they are unbelievers and when it’s made clear that unbelievers will be killed or burned in hell eternally, depending on which one of the many diverse theologies people have extracted from the same book.

Broun, you brain dead asshole. The notion of a U S Government sponsored “Year of the Bible” is wrong on so many levels without you raising the religious tolerance issue. The Bible, Jesus and most Christian Religions are no more tolerant of other religions than the Muslims, Jews and Hindus.  In fact, Bible based religions are intolerant of each other to the point of bloodshed. Do the problems between the Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland ring a bell, you asshole?

Broun is a “Christian” and is trying to give his religion some influence over the U S Government. Tell it like it is. Don’t couch it in “religious tolerance” bullshit.

There are two real issues here, of any substance, the first being the separation of church and state issue. The second is asked by the author of the above article: What about the economy, health care, global warming and all the other issues on Congress’ plate?

Good question. As we suffer through the worst economic crises in decades, Broun dithers and wastes time on a “non issue”. Hey, Broun and all you other government fuck heads:  get to work and stop fucking around with this type of bullshit issue. Facing and working on real pressing issues apparently is too much work for Mr. Broun. Does it give you a headache Pauly?

“Man, all these spreadsheets, financial reports, projections, policy briefings, it’s all a big blur for this old country boy from Georgia. Some guy was palabering about the OMB. I don’t even know what that is but I think I can spell it. I’m hearing all this talk about  Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and I haven’t even met these two guys yet, but I say haul ‘em in front of congress and give ‘em what fur!”

“But we need to honor the Good Book. Yea, that’ll make me a big dog back home”

Hey, Broun, good idea. Go back home. In fact, take Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and Harry Reid with you

Fucking Morons.

More Proof the Bible is Bull Shit.

Jehovah’s Witness and Bible thumpers like to continually harp on the scientific accuracy of the Bible as proof it was written by God. In an earlier post, I debunked the notion that the bible said the Earth was round before science proved it and when most people though it was flat, a little biblical factoid the Witnesses like to crow about. 

Recently I was on a JW Q&A, where as per usual, I stir shit up. It’s a gift. I asked if Jesus was wrong when he said in Mark 4:31: 

“Like a mustard grain, which at the time it was sown in the ground was the tiniest of all the seeds that are on the earth” New World Translation.

The American Standard Version says: “It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown upon the earth, though it be less than all the seeds that are upon the earth,” 

The New English Bible says “It is like a mustard seed that when sown in the ground, even though it is the smallest of all the seeds in the ground”

The King James Version says: “is less than all the seeds that be in the earth”.

The New Jerusalem Bible says “It is like a mustard seed which, at the time of its sowing, is the smallest of all the seeds on earth.

“The Catholic Douay Version says: ” It is as a grain of mustard seed: which when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that are in the earth:”

Jesus was apparently using the illustration that good things can come from a very small beginning, or something like that. His point is irrelevant. The real point is the glaring scientific inaccuracy of his statement. In fact the mustard seed in not the tiniest, smallest or “less” than all the seeds “in the earth”, “on earth” or “upon the earth”. Since they are some of the loudest Bible pounders, I’ll let the Jehovah’s Witnesses elaborate.“So Jesus was not “teaching a lesson in botany.”  Well, In Isaiah, Chap 20 where the Witnesses point to God looking at the “circle” of the earth as proof the bible is scientifically accurate, is God there giving an Astronomy lesson? I’ve already debunked that piece of disinformation, but they jump on it as proof of the Bible’s authorship.

From the Watchtower of 5/15/92, page 5:

Botany: Some wrongly conclude that the Bible is inaccurate because Jesus Christ spoke of “a mustard grain” as “the tiniest of all the seeds.” (Mark 4:30-32) Likely, Jesus meant the seed of the black mustard plant (Brassica nigra or Sinapis nigra), which is only about 0.039 to 0.063 inch [1 to 1.6 mm] in diameter. Though there are smaller seeds, such as fine-as-powder seeds of the orchid,  Jesus was not talking to people who grew orchids. Those Galilean Jews knew that of the various types of seeds sown by local farmers, the mustard seed was the tiniest. Jesus was talking about the Kingdom, not teaching a lesson in botany.

Is the fact the that he was “not teaching a lesson in botany” give him license to state a provable unscientific fact? What would be the point? Jesus was wrong. The mustard seed is not the smallest seed in creation. The seed of the orchid is. But God and/or God’s son, (choose your own theology) didn’t know this fact or chose to state a scientific inaccuracy. He could have said the mustard sees is “one of the smallest”, is “among” the smallest or that it simply “is very small”. His audience would have gotten the sense of his illustration. It was not important for him to say “It is like a mustard seed which, at the time of its sowing, is the smallest of all the seeds on earth.” The fact that it was very small and recognized for being so by his audience would have been sufficient for him to make his point. He didn’t say that. He said the smallest seed in creation. Science proves otherwise.

Jesus was wrong.The brain dead, delusional religious morons on the Q&A responded as expected. In order to believe in and have faith in things you cannot see, you have to suspend your ability to think critically, analytically and logically. No where was this more apparent than in the responses to my post.“You’re nit picking!!” they cried, accusatorily wagging the cyber finger of divine justice in my face. Hey, I didn’t say Jesus was God/God’s son and thus perfect and all knowing, they did. I don’t believe the Bible is God’s word or that Jesus ever lived. But, if he is wrong, just once he is not, by definition perfect. He was wrong. Don’t kill the messenger. Explain the verse, answer the question.

 “It’s not important. It’s the message”. Bullshit, it is important, it’s very important. If the opposite was true, you can bet your ass the JW’s and every other delusional Bible thumper would be screeching about how the Bible was so scientifically accurate. “How could Jesus know that the, mustard seed was the smallest in the whole earth unless he had that divine knowledge? See, the Bible is from God!!!”

Do you want to talk about nit picking? Get in on the argument about John 1:1. They will argue endlessly over the notion that Jesus was “a” god, or Jesus was “the” God. The nit picking charge, is itself not relevant, as most Bible controversies are, by definition, nit picking. Brilliant men, spend there lives pouring over ancient manuscripts to answer such “nit picky” questions.

“Oh, but you have to take his comment about the mustard seed in context. His audience knew it to be the smallest seed, so it made sense to them”

Well, who is Jesus’ audience? Do Jehovah’s Witnesses and other modern day Christians think of themselves as Jesus audience? Does Jesus talk to you through the pages of the Bible? Was Jesus not capable of thinking ahead and realizing that a future audience, with accurate botanical knowledge may know that indeed the mustard seed is not the smallest seed “in the world”?

Would it not, then in the much broader context, have made sense for the all knowing Jesus to say “one of the smallest seeds in the WHOLE earth? Or, is the Bible, not from God, written by men, who at that time thought the mustard seed indeed was the smallest seed in the whole earth?

If you’re a Christian, you better be able to reconcile in your own mind that Jesus made a provable scientific error here and therefore is not perfect. If you choose to ignore the obvious, than you have surrendered all you critical, logical and analytical thinking skills, to what ever authority figure you’ve attached yourself to. How many Christians who read this will actually think about it, research it and give it an honest appraisal. Few, if any.

Most Christians will dismiss me as a ranting, demon possessed hater of God, whose primary purpose in life is to rob them of their precious relationship with the Almighty, to screw up their chances of salvation.  Well, you can rest easy about me. I don’t give a flying fuck what you believe or weather you live or die. In other words, I care as much about you as you do about me.  

The real funny thing is that all you hopelessly delusional competing groups of “Christians” think every  other group is trying to do what you accuse me of, rob you of your salvation, block your entrance to heaven, turn you against Jesus/God.

And you’re right!  To, Jehovah’s Witnesses, if you ain’t one of them, God is going to kill you. The Baptists think all the Witnesses are going to hell. The Catholics, as enunciated by Pope Benedict think all none Catholic Churches are counterfeit. You all think your right and God is going to punish everyone else.

 This is a fine kettle of fish, as my old grandma would say.

Hoards of delusional, or worse self delusional assholes, frantically running in circles, trying to please their version of God as given the them by their Authority Figure. Who claims exclusive communication with the Almighty, who incidentally probably failed botany class.

In my fantasy, I picture myself sitting on the periphery of your circle in a beach chair drinking a Corona, watching you all frantically chase after salvation, Occasionally I will put out my foot and trip one of you with a post like the above. It’s just fun to watch you flail and fall face down into the sand.

Religion is such bull shit. I mean , com’on!!!    

Jehovah’ Witnesses: All Dressed Up and No Where to Go.

It occurred to me some time ago that for once in their long, sordid history, fraught with false prophesies, loony assertions and strange and improvable assumptions, Jehovah’s Witnesses, at this specific time in their history don’t have a date. They are dateless, stood up and left at the curb, in their prom dress with the wilting corsage.

In the entire history of this eclectic and often derided Religious group, they have always had a “date”. They have always been looking forward, like the donkey follows the carrot on the stick, to Armageddon and it was always real close and going to come within specific, measurable time periods.

 “It’s just around the corner!”. Don’t waste your time in “worldly pursuits! Armageddon and God’s new world is soooo close”

Interestingly, at this particular snapshot in time, they do not have a date for Armageddon. Oh, it’s still close, it’s still “around the corner” but the Watchtower Society has not set any precise time period or “Drop dead date”, like they have in the past.

I was raised a Jo Ho, from birth. At age 18 I was reading this from the Awake, May 22, 1969 page 15:

“All the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophesy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Jesus foretold “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur”.

From the same Awake, page 15: “Therefore as a young person you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.”

I am 57, a grandfather, a college graduate, have started and sold several successful companies and am contemplating retirement. But, in 1969, “this corrupt system (was) due to end in a few years” and I had no time to “fulfill any career that this system offers”, surely the system would end before I was 30 or even 35.

Again, historically, Jo Ho’s have always had a date or a time period. For example, The Watchtower Society prophesied that Armageddon would come at 6 separate and distinct time periods and they were wrong.

1914 – “In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of 1914.” (The Time is at Hand, 1902 edition, p. 99) Note: this same statement was contained in the 1908 edition of the same book.

End of WW1: “The present great war in Europe is the beginning of the Armageddon of the Scriptures (Revelation 19:16-20). It will eventuate in the complete overthrow of all the systems of error which have so long oppressed the people of God and deluded the world”. (Pastor Russell’s Sermons, 1915, p. 676) In the same year (1915),

1925 – “The period must end in 1925 . . . [This date] is definitely fixed in the Scriptures. Every thinking person can see that a great climax is at hand. The scriptures clearly indicate that the climax is the fall of Satan’s empire and the full establishment of the Messianic kingdom . . . Therefore, it can be confidently said at this time that millions now living will never die”. (Golden Age, January 4, 1922, p. 217)

1975 – Watchtower, October 15, 1969 pages 622 and 623:

“More recently earnest researchers of the Holy Bible have made a recheck of its chronology. According to their calculations the six millenniums of mankind’s life on earth would end in the mid-seventies…. Would not, then, the end of six millenniums of mankind’s laborious enslavement under Satan the Devil be the fitting time for Jehovah God to usher in a Sabbath millennium for all his human creatures? Yes, indeed! And his King Jesus Christ will be Lord of that Sabbath.”

Notice the use of the definite article “the”. It would be “the fitting time”, not “a fitting time” not “an appropriate time” but “THE FITTING TIME”, to the exclusion of all other times. “Yes, Indeed! And his King Jesus Christ will be Lord of that Sabbath”. Not “might be”, not “could be”, but “WILL BE”.
, for sure now….”

End of the 20th Century – Again in 1971, they said it would come in the 20th century: ”Shortly, within our twentieth century, the “battle in the day of Jehovah” will begin”. From: The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah – How? 1971 p. 216”

Within the life span of the 1914 generation: Watchtower, 7/1/69 pg395:

“People who were only just old enough to understand what was happening to the world in 1914 are now approaching seventy years of age. Yes, the numbers of that generation are dwindling fast, but before they all pass away this system must meet its end in the war of Armageddon.”

I lived the 1975 thing, the before the end of the 20^th Century thing and the 1914 generation thing.

I was still a Witness in 1995 when the definition of the 1914 generation was changed. It was so subtle that, although I read every publication, I apparently missed that. And so did many Witnesses. When I have a conversation with a Witness, I will ask about the 1914 gen and the changed in 1995. (They also changed it again sometime in 2002 or so back to the original 1927 definition).  Most current Jo Ho’s have no idea what I am taking about. Either they are old enough to remember the original definition, shown above from the July, 1, 1969 Watchtower or they are too young to be aware of what it was and what it now is.

Here are the three incarnations of the definition of the 1914 generation.:

1-      Wt 2/15/27, page 62: The Anointed ones make up the generation

 

2-      Some time in the 1950’s it changed to this: Watchtower, 7/1/69 pg395: “People who were only just old enough to understand what was happening to the world in 1914 are now approaching seventy years of age. Yes, the numbers of that generation are dwindling fast, but before they all pass away this system must meet its end in the war of Armageddon.”

 

3-      WT 11/1/95, pg 19-20:  Therefore, in the final fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy today, “this generation” apparently refers to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ’s presence but fail to mend their ways.

 

4-      2008, the 1914 generation  changed again, back to the 1927 teaching. WT 2/15/2008, page 24 “Anointed ones make up the generation”

 

So the definition of the 1914 gen went full circle and now it is not attached to anytime period, like the death of those of that generation.

The Jo Ho’s have no date.  They are dateless.

Without being raised in this frantic environment of “We’re running out of time”, “Armageddon is just around the corner”, I can’t imagine being a Jo Ho without a date.

But alas, they are dateless, adrift on a sea of reality, as their past dates did not happen and perhaps they are reticent to quote a new one.

However, I have faith in the Watchtower Society. I have complete faith that they will not be dateless for long. Look for a date that perhaps has something to do with Noah, 120 years and 1914. I am keeping up with the Jo Ho lit, even the Watchtowers they study and no longer distribute door to door.

Oh yea, they have two Watchtowers, one for Jo Ho’s and one for the public. I have access to it all and lately it looks like they are hinting at this Noah connection. I predict that they say that Armageddon will come before 2034, or 120 years from 1914.

“This is the new “Truth” from Jehovah, as all our previous predictions have been bullshit”

The Watchtower, 10/1/94, pg 8

“Even as Bible prophecy pointed forward to the Messiah, it also directs us to the close-knit body of anointed Christian Witnesses that now serve as the faithful and discreet slave. It helps us to understand the Word of God. All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.”

Hey, they were only wrong 100% in the 20^th Century. Let’s see what the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.” Has for us in the 21^st Century. More bullshit dates.

Diners report seeing Virgin Mary in food griddle

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_griddle_virgin_mary

This article was sent to be by Leo, an alert reader of this blog. Thanks, Leo!

 Thu Apr 30, 9:14 pm ET

CALEXICO, Calif. – The hottest thing on the griddle at the Las Palmas restaurant these days isn’t the food — it’s the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe that a cook says she saw on the griddle.

Restaurant manager Brenda Martinez says more than 100 people have flocked to the small town of Calexico on the California-Mexico border to gaze at the likeness of the Virgin Mary since it was discovered as the griddle was being cleaned.

Among the awe-struck was a group of masked Mexican wrestlers who arrived Thursday for an exhibition at a nearby swap meet.

One, known as Mr. Tempest, says: “This is amazing. It’s a true miracle.”

Since the discovery, the griddle has been taken out of service and placed in a shrine in a storage room.

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I bet they’re charging a good bit to anyone who wants a look. And I am sure they’re making some serious jack.

I have a previous post here called “Faith and Mickey Mouse”. I talk about how people go crazy over the likeness of the Virgin Mary on windows in Florida and cement walls in Chicago. If likenesses appearing in nature are significant, than perhaps God is sending us the message that Mickey Mouse is of cosmic importance. Disney actually invites people who have things that look like Mickey Mouse to send photos or the original article to them. They have thousands of photos, potato chips, tomatoes, etc. that resemble Mickey.

In fact, there was a cow born with a huge Mickey on her side. They had her on display at Disney World in Florida. I have seen her several times.

In all seriousness, what does the reactions of people, when hearing of the likeness of the Virgin Mary appearing on a griddle, window or cement wall tell us? People grasp at straws for proof of their faith. Religion needs faith because it has no facts. To quote Sam Harris, the noted atheist “Religious faith requires people to believe in things they could not possibly know”.

Normally, I would ridicule the moronic assumption, by the crazed faithful, who revere a stain on a window, griddle and/or cement wall as some proof or sign from God, the Virgin Mary or whatever deity. But in this case the actions by these brain dead, deluded, moronic religious assholes may in fact elicit empathy from this otherwise foul mouthed critique of all things religious.

 By the way, the Bible says Mary had other kids the old fashioned way, after Jesus, so her cherry is waaay popped. But, believe what you want.

Stop and think. These people are hungering for some tangible proof of their faith, because they have none. Not one shred of evidence to prove any of the bullshit the Catholics cram down their throats. It’s not just the Catholics in any religion based on any of the numerous bullshit Holy Books.

People want real, tangible proof. Do ya’ think God knows that? So, where is he? Just one appearance from him and it would solve a lot of the world’s problems. I haven’t seen him. I have concluded that there is a God/Intelligent/whatever, but I do not presume to have any exclusive communications with him/her/it and/or them. I have come to this conclusion simply by observing nature and the universe. To me, it’s reasonable.

But, mankind seems to be adrift in a cosmic sea of vast uncertainty, populated by millions of people and organizations claiming that they have the only exclusive path to him.

“Well, you just have to read the Bible. He’ll make himself known to you”. Oh yea, well fuck you in the ass. I’ve read the Bible, likely far more than most people. Nothing jumped out at me. There is no proof the Bible is from God or that Jesus Christ was a real person, so blow me.

The Bible has as many interpretations as readers. There are different interpretations of all the “Holy Books” and not a shred of proof that any of them was divinely inspired.

The sad part is that poor, hapless suckers, yearning for some micron on proof for what they believe, grasping at straws, revere stains on griddles, cement walls and windows. Pathetic. But, you can bet your ass that Pancho and Cisco down at the Las Palmas restaurant are raking in the pesos.

The real question is what’s with the “masked Mexican wrestlers”? What’s under those masks? Are they really Mexican? Did they pay for their meal and not steal anything? That would be the real fucking miracle.