Jehovah’ Witnesses: All Dressed Up and No Where to Go.

It occurred to me some time ago that for once in their long, sordid history, fraught with false prophesies, loony assertions and strange and improvable assumptions, Jehovah’s Witnesses, at this specific time in their history don’t have a date. They are dateless, stood up and left at the curb, in their prom dress with the wilting corsage.

In the entire history of this eclectic and often derided Religious group, they have always had a “date”. They have always been looking forward, like the donkey follows the carrot on the stick, to Armageddon and it was always real close and going to come within specific, measurable time periods.

 “It’s just around the corner!”. Don’t waste your time in “worldly pursuits! Armageddon and God’s new world is soooo close”

Interestingly, at this particular snapshot in time, they do not have a date for Armageddon. Oh, it’s still close, it’s still “around the corner” but the Watchtower Society has not set any precise time period or “Drop dead date”, like they have in the past.

I was raised a Jo Ho, from birth. At age 18 I was reading this from the Awake, May 22, 1969 page 15:

“All the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophesy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Jesus foretold “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur”.

From the same Awake, page 15: “Therefore as a young person you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.”

I am 57, a grandfather, a college graduate, have started and sold several successful companies and am contemplating retirement. But, in 1969, “this corrupt system (was) due to end in a few years” and I had no time to “fulfill any career that this system offers”, surely the system would end before I was 30 or even 35.

Again, historically, Jo Ho’s have always had a date or a time period. For example, The Watchtower Society prophesied that Armageddon would come at 6 separate and distinct time periods and they were wrong.

1914 – “In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of 1914.” (The Time is at Hand, 1902 edition, p. 99) Note: this same statement was contained in the 1908 edition of the same book.

End of WW1: “The present great war in Europe is the beginning of the Armageddon of the Scriptures (Revelation 19:16-20). It will eventuate in the complete overthrow of all the systems of error which have so long oppressed the people of God and deluded the world”. (Pastor Russell’s Sermons, 1915, p. 676) In the same year (1915),

1925 – “The period must end in 1925 . . . [This date] is definitely fixed in the Scriptures. Every thinking person can see that a great climax is at hand. The scriptures clearly indicate that the climax is the fall of Satan’s empire and the full establishment of the Messianic kingdom . . . Therefore, it can be confidently said at this time that millions now living will never die”. (Golden Age, January 4, 1922, p. 217)

1975 – Watchtower, October 15, 1969 pages 622 and 623:

“More recently earnest researchers of the Holy Bible have made a recheck of its chronology. According to their calculations the six millenniums of mankind’s life on earth would end in the mid-seventies…. Would not, then, the end of six millenniums of mankind’s laborious enslavement under Satan the Devil be the fitting time for Jehovah God to usher in a Sabbath millennium for all his human creatures? Yes, indeed! And his King Jesus Christ will be Lord of that Sabbath.”

Notice the use of the definite article “the”. It would be “the fitting time”, not “a fitting time” not “an appropriate time” but “THE FITTING TIME”, to the exclusion of all other times. “Yes, Indeed! And his King Jesus Christ will be Lord of that Sabbath”. Not “might be”, not “could be”, but “WILL BE”.
, for sure now….”

End of the 20th Century – Again in 1971, they said it would come in the 20th century: ”Shortly, within our twentieth century, the “battle in the day of Jehovah” will begin”. From: The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah – How? 1971 p. 216”

Within the life span of the 1914 generation: Watchtower, 7/1/69 pg395:

“People who were only just old enough to understand what was happening to the world in 1914 are now approaching seventy years of age. Yes, the numbers of that generation are dwindling fast, but before they all pass away this system must meet its end in the war of Armageddon.”

I lived the 1975 thing, the before the end of the 20th Century thing and the 1914 generation thing.

I was still a Witness in 1995 when the definition of the 1914 generation was changed. It was so subtle that, although I read every publication, I apparently missed that. And so did many Witnesses. When I have a conversation with a Witness, I will ask about the 1914 gen and the changed in 1995. (They also changed it again sometime in 2002 or so back to the original 1927 definition).  Most current Jo Ho’s have no idea what I am taking about. Either they are old enough to remember the original definition, shown above from the July, 1, 1969 Watchtower or they are too young to be aware of what it was and what it now is.

Here are the three incarnations of the definition of the 1914 generation.:

1-      Wt 2/15/27, page 62: The Anointed ones make up the generation

 

2-      Some time in the 1950’s it changed to this: Watchtower, 7/1/69 pg395: “People who were only just old enough to understand what was happening to the world in 1914 are now approaching seventy years of age. Yes, the numbers of that generation are dwindling fast, but before they all pass away this system must meet its end in the war of Armageddon.”

 

3-      WT 11/1/95, pg 19-20:  Therefore, in the final fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy today, “this generation” apparently refers to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ’s presence but fail to mend their ways.

 

4-      2008, the 1914 generation  changed again, back to the 1927 teaching. WT 2/15/2008, page 24 “Anointed ones make up the generation”

 

So the definition of the 1914 gen went full circle and now it is not attached to anytime period, like the death of those of that generation.

The Jo Ho’s have no date.  They are dateless.

Without being raised in this frantic environment of “We’re running out of time”, “Armageddon is just around the corner”, I can’t imagine being a Jo Ho without a date.

But alas, they are dateless, adrift on a sea of reality, as their past dates did not happen and perhaps they are reticent to quote a new one.

However, I have faith in the Watchtower Society. I have complete faith that they will not be dateless for long. Look for a date that perhaps has something to do with Noah, 120 years and 1914. I am keeping up with the Jo Ho lit, even the Watchtowers they study and no longer distribute door to door.

Oh yea, they have two Watchtowers, one for Jo Ho’s and one for the public. I have access to it all and lately it looks like they are hinting at this Noah connection. I predict that they say that Armageddon will come before 2034, or 120 years from 1914.

“This is the new “Truth” from Jehovah, as all our previous predictions have been bullshit”

The Watchtower, 10/1/94, pg 8

“Even as Bible prophecy pointed forward to the Messiah, it also directs us to the close-knit body of anointed Christian Witnesses that now serve as the faithful and discreet slave. It helps us to understand the Word of God. All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.”

Hey, they were only wrong 100% in the 20th Century. Let’s see what the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.” Has for us in the 21st Century. More bullshit dates.

7 Responses to “Jehovah’ Witnesses: All Dressed Up and No Where to Go.”

  1. siriusag Says:

    I just found you via deism.com … I’m going to read back over your posts and then comment more, but for now I want you to know that I am like you in a younger form.

    On this post, I had that thought a few years ago about them being dateless. There’s nothing on which to pin the armageddon corsage. LOL

    Should I congratulate you or offer you my sympathy? I can’t imagine keeping up with their looniness, but I guess somebody needs to. I definitely offer you my thanks. I can get the more palatable version through you. *wink*

    Blessed Be (off to read more),
    Jaguar Zaji

    • isnrblog Says:

      Thanks! As far sympathy or congratulations, I can’t answer. I do keep up with the “looniness” and it is presantly amusing. I remember when it was distressing. as I untangled myself from the Watchtower Society and it’s deception. Did you have the same distress at first, when you dared to think “The Truth” could be wrong?

      Actaully, I am writing a book, I’m Spiritual, Not Religious: The Arguement Against Organized Religion. It’s fun researching and rewriting ect. I do have a publisher so it will likely be in print. If not, I’ll do an ebook.

      Also, on some of my post I do get quite vulgar and I feel perhaps I will tone down on that a bit. Thanks for visiting. Your comments, positive or negative are always welcome.

      • siriusag Says:

        LOL Vulgar is one way of describing it … I’ve gone through a considerable amount of your posts and it’s almost like watching an exorcism in progress. Whatever you need to say or do to get it out, it’s all good with me. You’re not hurting me (or anyone else) by expressing your views in print. Let it all out. There is the argument that mode of speech makes or breaks your point, but anyone who is genuinely interested in your thoughts will overlook the occasional obscene outburst. Honestly, I think you could say a lot worse, considering the time you invested in, and feel you wasted on, that wild bunch of …. [insert your favorite insult here]. :)

        I was 24 when I seriously entertained the thought that they were wrong. It rocked my world, having been raised since the age of 5 in that madness. I, too, got baptized at 16, but my reasons were different and one day I’ll share that on my blog (which is tragically neglected at the moment). At any rate, it sent me in a sort of panic that I refused to plunge into until much later. It’s difficult dealing with the erosion of your foundation and core beliefs. I employed ostrich-itis to cushion the blow. I just stopped going to the Kingdom Hall, darkening their doors a total of 2 times since. My distress, oddly enough, was centered more on the poor unfortunate souls still caught up in that mess. So what if I’m wrong? I’d long ago decided I was a goat. Moving out of their fold was relatively easy. But to think of all those misled people, wasting their lives on nothing … that was the saddest thought of all to me. And now, my distress is focused on a much larger group, as you yourself have discovered. What is it … 95% of the entire earth’s population being led around by their noses after the proverbial carrot? Just sad, I tell you.

        It’s twelve years later, I’m now 36 … I still have nightmares about going to the Kingdom Hall or the assemblies. They don’t feel like nightmares until I wake up, but I hate them. I was never disfellowshipped. I think I have to go through the process of disassociation in order to make the nightmares stop. Up until finding your blog, I never realized I needed that final break. I just assumed it was good enough to walk away. I didn’t want to play by their rules anymore. But those nightmares have.got.to.stop!!

        I don’t want to make this too long because I’m sure I will have plenty more opportunities to share my experience with you, and to discuss the various thoughts I have about your many posts. Do I have permission to comment on whichever ones strike my fancy no matter how old?

        Thank you for having a blog for me to visit. It’s been most refreshing, amusing and thought-provoking.

        Jaguar Zaji

  2. Sherry Saienni Says:

    I also found you on Deism.com. I left “the truth” for good shortly after becoming an adult. I’ve often wondered how they have been handling the date situation since then.
    I’ll be reading more here.

  3. Ms. Swantine Says:

    I “studied” three times with the JWs. Something about them gave me pause and I found myself torn up over several doctrinal issues and some terribly rude behavior demonstrated by some of the people.
    Once, in the middle of the memorial meeting, where bread and wine get passed around but only the members of the 144,000 partake, I was overcome with the realization that… IF the Bible is true and IF we are supposed to preach, believe and behave like the disciples and IF we are supposed to follow the direct commandment to “keep doing this in remembrance of me”… then all JWs who sit there and pass the wine and bread without partaking are insulting Jesus and Jehovah. I would rather err on the side of honoring Jesus rather than snubbing him. That is, if I am to be a believer.
    Many of the JW practices and beliefs are built around flimsy evidence and tiny, little transliterations found in the Bible. For example, the idea that Jesus is Michael, the Archangel. How on earth can anyone make that great leap of logic based on Michael speaking with the voice of the Archangel? I asked where else I might find more supporting scripture and there was nothing else.
    I was always drawn to the JWs by some of the very things that put off other people. Like: Blood issues. Like: Returning to a Paradise on Earth rather than floating off to Heaven. Like: Not celebrating Christmas and other pagan holidays. They really struck a chord with me but I never lost my mind to them! I was always analyzing everything with two different assumptions: #1 Assuming the Bible is true, how do they adhere to it? #2 Assuming the Bible is not true and just an elaborate manipulation, contrived to keep people in line and sedated so they have some false hope for a future.
    The JWs failed with both assumptions, although I must say, they came closer than any organized religion I have ever known in their adherence to the Bible.
    At this time, I consider myself a deist and I just do not know if or how much of the Bible is true. Some if it is very compelling.
    I consider the scientific discovery of DNA to be downright evidential proof of God. I really do. I don’t know how some scientists can peruse that evidence and deny the intelligent creator of it.
    So, that is where I stand at present and I am so very grateful to have found you on the deism website.
    BTW, have you read the books by Raymond Franz? I have not by I read an excerpt online. Does anyone know how he is doing and what religion he is affiliated with these days? He suffered very harsh treatment and I have seen smaller versions of that type of treatment. I know what they are capable of!

    Keep doing what you are doing! You are doing the right thing. It is very important work!
    Best regards,
    Diane (aka Ms. Swantine)

    • isnrblog Says:

      Diane;

      I read your comment several times and keep coming back to it.

      It seems that you and I have had similar journies and came to similar conclusions.

      You have given your situation far more analysis than the vast majority of Witnesses. Most “Bible Studies” simpy lap up the crap with little or no question, that is those that progress to baptism, which are a very small percenatge.

      Those raised Witnesses are trapped by the socio-economic situation, friends, family, etc.

      I am shocked at how much todays Witness does not know about the Watchtower Society, the flip flops on key doctrinal points and the false predicitons of Armageddon.

  4. isnrblog Says:

    Jag, please comment as much as you want. I enjoy your thoughts. We do have a similar experience.

    I simply had had enough and it ended up in a judicial commitee. I told them about the many inconsistancies in their literature, which they glossed over. I literally told the to fuck off. In fact, one of the elders was a long time friend and he told me afterward that he had never heard the “f” word so much as in that 30 minutes. I said I have plenty more where those came from.

    Clean break? I made a clean break. Most leave like you did. No shame in that. Do you feel like you need to confront them and make the clean break? If so, it can be quit liberating. If, not just stay away.

    I do not suffer from dreams. regrets, pangs of distress like I screwed up and left the “true religion”, etc. Everyday, I feel actually more liberated. In retrospect. I don’t think I ever really was a Witness. I fell like I simply wen through the motions. You would think God would have known that as I was appointed as an Elder. If Elders are appointed by Holy Spirit, he screwed up with me.

    Good to hear from you. I will keep posting. Thanks for visiting!

    Fred

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